Rays Unis Leaked
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Re: Rays Unis Leaked
The uniforms need a different back font. The numbers and names are too generic. The logo is good. Could use to lose the little sunbeams, though...
by Orlando Rays on Sep 20, 2007 2:54 PM EDT 0 recs
Sunbeams
by R.J. Anderson on
Sep 20, 2007 8:01 PM EDT
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http://www.floridafreeways.org/newrays-away.jpg
by Orlando Rays on Sep 20, 2007 2:59 PM EDT 0 recs
Man
At the very least, I hope they don't continue with the plan to disown our home area. Put 'Tampa Bay' on the road jerseys, that is where we are from. Talk to any Oriole fan who has been slighted out of a 'Baltimore' on their jerseys since Peter Angelos took over, and see how they feel. I root for the Rays because they are hometown team. That doesn't go for everyone here, but I'm still proud of the area that they represent. This matter is very important to me.
by Patrick L. Kennedy on Sep 20, 2007 3:02 PM EDT 0 recs
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You are very right about Angelos and what you said IS a big issue in the metro Baltimore area. Believe it or not to many, there is pride in the road jersies and saying your team is "Tampa Bay" or "Washington" or "Seattle". I did not list the Angels before because its the intent of the club in my mind to be the Los Angeles Angels and not the Anaheim Angels and they are in litigation with Anaheim over the name.
In my mind, the NDRO took a terrible swing and miss. They had 18 months to come up with that? Please be more bold in branding the club. For me, I find this somewhat demoralizing as a fan and not including Tampa Bay on the road jersies is a major mistake. I will be happy to argue anyone on that issue.
by joedobr on
Sep 20, 2007 4:56 PM EDT
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Re: Man
I like the new BP hats myself and the Devil Ray itself in the new colors.
by Jacob Larsen on
Sep 20, 2007 6:09 PM EDT
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Re: Man
I am just big on the road jersey deal. I want to ensure the core fans are properly identified, that's all. I think the jersey/uniform more than the player itself is what the fan identifies with the team. That is why I am on this with the road unis.
by joedobr on
Sep 20, 2007 6:15 PM EDT
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Re: Man
by Jacob Larsen on
Sep 20, 2007 6:18 PM EDT
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Re: Man
Two, it is representative of where the team is from. An immaterial expression on a baseball cap isn't good enough. Especially when most people know that abbreviation as "tuberculosis".
by Patrick L. Kennedy on
Sep 20, 2007 9:34 PM EDT
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Re: Man
~George F. Will, Men at Work: The Craft of Baseball, 1990
by webdoyenne on
Sep 20, 2007 11:14 PM EDT
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Re: Man
by R.J. Anderson on
Sep 20, 2007 7:33 PM EDT
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Re: Man
Maybe cynicism isn't the right word, but concern is. Its civic ego involved in these road jersies. It may not be the idea you jump to, but its something I do pay note of.
by joedobr on
Sep 20, 2007 7:40 PM EDT
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Re: Man
by Jacob Larsen on
Sep 20, 2007 7:54 PM EDT
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Eh
by R.J. Anderson on
Sep 20, 2007 7:56 PM EDT
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What?
by Patrick L. Kennedy on
Sep 20, 2007 9:33 PM EDT
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Re: What?
I stand alongside Patrick here and believe that the road jersey is a BIG issue and is something I as a fan will not accept, especially if the reason is that of a broader marketing appeal. I think there are better ways to market if they think by eventually intending to be come the central Florida Rays rather than the Tampa Bay Rays. I stand for civic pride and I think the amount of pride in a ROAD jersey is intangile. As a matter of fact, I bought two Tampa Bay road jersies just for the words "Tampa Bay" on the uniform. Sure, its on the hats and besides Oakland and Baltimore (traditional), name a team that doesn't have a cap reflective of their home city/state?
by joedobr on
Sep 20, 2007 10:17 PM EDT
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Re: What?
Step One - Give fans outside of the Tampa Bay area more merchandise options. Yes Orlando and Port Charlotte both played a major roll in this.
Step Two - Build a winner on the field to make Rays merchandise more desirable.
Step Three - ???
Step Four - Profit
Very simple if you ask me.
by SeanDubbs on
Sep 21, 2007 12:53 AM EDT
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Re: What?
That made me think of that South Park episode with the underpant gnomes.
The new unis are ok and they will grow on me and I will proudly wear the old stuff also. I just want to get myself a hat for my head during the off season.
by Flabull on
Sep 21, 2007 2:08 AM EDT
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Re: What?
by joedobr on
Sep 21, 2007 8:07 AM EDT
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So people outside the area will now buy more crap?
by Patrick L. Kennedy on
Sep 21, 2007 6:02 PM EDT
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I do like the hats
The sparkle? Eh, not thrilled by it, but we'll see what they look like on B.J. Upton's chest in a few weeks.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 20, 2007 3:16 PM EDT 0 recs
The Navy alts are bland
by Patrick L. Kennedy on
Sep 20, 2007 3:21 PM EDT
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Re: The Navy alts are bland
by joedobr on
Sep 20, 2007 4:47 PM EDT
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Re: The Navy alts are bland
I agree a little TB would be nice.
by thebaddancingraysfan on
Sep 20, 2007 4:56 PM EDT
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Re: The Navy alts are bland
by joedobr on
Sep 20, 2007 5:00 PM EDT
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Re: I do like the hats
by joedobr on
Sep 21, 2007 8:08 AM EDT
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The hats are more classic and simplistic. The logo screams Mariners rip off, just being honest.
by thebaddancingraysfan on Sep 20, 2007 4:54 PM EDT 0 recs
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That blue jersey with the light blue on the sides is a war crime. Only the Rays would decide to go "blue" while in the same division as the Blue Jays. Wow...
by stpetelawyer on
Sep 20, 2007 4:58 PM EDT
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by R.J. Anderson on
Sep 20, 2007 7:28 PM EDT
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by joedobr on Sep 20, 2007 4:58 PM EDT 0 recs
I agree completely Joe
I will come clean. I plan on moving out of the Bay Area once I go to college. I have no intent on remaining in the State of Florida for college, and if I do it won't be in the Bay Area. I simply need a change. I love to travel, I want to get away, and I want to experience new things. I don't want to be stuck in the same old routine for the rest of my life. But with that being said, Tampa Bay will always be my home. I was born here, I was raised here, and nearly everyone that is dear to me lives here. The local teams will always remain my favorites no matter where I go. And the Rays will always be chief among them. I have a tremendous amount of pride in where I am from, and when the Rays hit the road and display 'Tampa Bay' in big letters on the front of the jersey, I make note of it. Because win or lose, the Rays are from Tampa Bay and they represent us. They represent an area that means a lot to me.
I don't know whether this move was a result of their desire to be inclusive of Orlando or Southwest Florida. But it doesn't matter. The Rays aren't based in those locations. They are from Tampa Bay. And they shouldn't be hesitant to say show. And what this move ultimately shows me is that they are, in some way, reluctant to broadcast their location. It certainly isn't for aesthetic reasons.
There is only one thing that makes me "angry" about this change, and it is that. I can live with the rest, as poor as it may be. But I root for the Rays because they're Tampa Bay's team. I wouldn't have nearly the emotion invested in them otherwise. And I want my area to be front and center when the Rays hit the road. Because I want everyone else in the other 29 locales to know whom it is that they are playing. They're playing our team. The Rays aren't a baseball team that is from Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay is a baseball team that is called the Rays.
by Patrick L. Kennedy on
Sep 20, 2007 5:31 PM EDT
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Re: I agree completely Joe
I too like the color scheme, I can live with the colors and the font. I get what they are trying to accomplish even though it was an attempt to appeal at the "non devil worshippers" out there. But an explanation of dropping Tampa Bay or even a lack of a 3rd alternate jersey with Tampa Bay or TB is something I would like explained? Is there time still to address this issue and get Tampa Bay on the road jerseies or come up with an alternate jersey?
by joedobr on
Sep 20, 2007 5:41 PM EDT
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It probably isn't set in stone
Another possibility is that the DRO might have "leaked" this as a decoy to throw off people. That might be a very real possibility as well. It very well might be the case, and we might all be duped. But I tend to think not.
Regardless, I don't think this change is unflexible. I think that they can make changes between now and next year based on feedback. After all, what good organization isn't willing to make changes in their product if massive consumer demand calls for them? Hopefully there will be support to have 'Tampa Bay' put back, and hopefully the team will oblige.
by Patrick L. Kennedy on
Sep 20, 2007 5:53 PM EDT
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The more important issue here
by R.J. Anderson on
Sep 20, 2007 7:25 PM EDT
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Re: The more important issue here
As for my reasons on the road jersey deal, there are several of them. Its not just one point of view but several. Its more than just tradition. I could argue the traditional argument that its the "right thing" to do, but its more than just that. There are real reasons why a strong majority of teams have the name of their city or state on the road jersies and its beyond aesthetics. Philly makes sense because the name of the city is long and the name of the team is incorporated with the city too.
by joedobr on
Sep 20, 2007 7:34 PM EDT
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Nothing like
As far as tradition you can argue that following tradition isn't always the best way. Not necessarily in this case, but perhaps these are somewhat older templates? Who knows.
by R.J. Anderson on
Sep 20, 2007 7:42 PM EDT
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Interesting
Never thought of it that way.
by R.J. Anderson on
Sep 20, 2007 7:28 PM EDT
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by Kevin Gengler on Sep 20, 2007 6:53 PM EDT 0 recs
Yeah these are likely legit
by R.J. Anderson on
Sep 20, 2007 7:26 PM EDT
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by SC raysfan on Sep 20, 2007 7:17 PM EDT 0 recs
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-I think the new jerseys are excellent and a major upgrade from the current jersey.
-Ownership and research did a great job
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by Jake on Sep 20, 2007 7:36 PM EDT 0 recs
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Give it time and see. It simply goes beyond the hat. The Brewers are associated with brewing beer in Wisconsin and the Orioles changed their roadies back in the early 70's when the Senators left for Texas. I don't want to see the NDRO make an unnecessary wrong. For me its an easy compromise. Why no "TB" 3rd jersey like with the sweet greens they have ad the last 2 years at the very least?
Its MORE than the hat in identifying the club.
by joedobr on
Sep 20, 2007 8:44 PM EDT
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by Rays in 08 on Sep 20, 2007 7:42 PM EDT 0 recs
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by sattp on Sep 20, 2007 10:50 PM EDT 0 recs
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Sorry, but I have to agree with Lukas and Patrick on these. These look to me like the Rays are trying way too hard to be one of the big boys, without realizing that not even we dedicated DRBers will no longer be able to ID our own team at a glance anymore. Today, if you catch a glimpse of a highlight and see that Rays green, you know that is our team. With these unis, I honestly looked at the back of the home jersey "PLAYER 5" and thought "...Nomar?"
Could anybody here, from a distance, actually tell these unis apart from those of the Dodgers, Royals, Padres, or even the Mets/Yankees? To me the green is a big part of the team's identity, the only part of it left from those crazy rainbow opening years, and something that makes the Rays unique in all of MLB. This looks to me to be exactly the same as what the Diamondbacks did this year, unveiling a cool new market-tested design that looks exactly like 5 other teams already do. I sincerely hope that the product on the field defines these unis more than the opponents they play, but for a team that looks to become a potential powerhouse over the next few years and develop a true national identity for the first time, a weak generic been-there-done-that design like this is exactly the wrong way to go.
Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
by das411 on Sep 21, 2007 2:54 AM EDT 0 recs
Something to consider...
by Matt Sammon on Sep 21, 2007 8:44 AM EDT 0 recs
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You are correct, only in America, as Don King would say. Some special interest group or benefactor really got Matt or Darcy Raymond on this color and uniform scheme. Once again, I like the scheme and colors, even though its a cross of the Royals, Dodgers and Mariners, but they have really neutered the pride of the jersey. Its the identity crisis and we want to have it both ways with the neutered road jersey and combining sun rays with the stinging ray that irks me at this time.
We got about 50 days for these uniforms to be unveiled and maybe the criticism can be enough to get at least the road jersey tweaked.
by joedobr on
Sep 21, 2007 8:58 AM EDT
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Re: Something to consider...
by Matt Sammon on
Sep 21, 2007 2:35 PM EDT
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Re: Something to consider...
Anyways, speaking of cross promotions, maybe the Rays can do a cross promotion with Ryan's Family Steakhouse?! They look like they could become the Tampa Bay Ryans instead of the Rays! Maybe someone can do a photo shop and put the Ryans instead of the Rays on CC's jersey there!! The R looks like Ryan's Family Steakhouse!
by joedobr on
Sep 21, 2007 7:44 PM EDT
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I think they look ugly. I love the Green color scheme and by ditching that we lose a large part of what makes our team and colors unique.
At least save the GREEN! Yellow is ugly and they look like generic Royals Uniforms.
by Japhei on Sep 21, 2007 11:16 AM EDT 0 recs
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While I do wish the ownership chose to stay with the unique green color scheme and give the logo a more classic look, the new uniforms and colors are by no means ugly. They do have some classic baseball class to them.
They could be worse, much worse (example: http://www.angelfire.com/blues/new_yorker/images/Devil_Rays.jpg ). These new uni's will grow on me. Not bad, but kind of a let down.
by floridaroar on Sep 21, 2007 11:34 AM EDT 0 recs
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Also, I know I've been hearing for at least a couple seasons about the team's plans to drop the "Devil" from the name -- why the change and why did it take them several years?
Finally, Joe made a very interesting comment upthread about the elimination of "Tampa Bay" anywhere on the uni... you may think him paranoid, but take it from me... I live in SoCal and it did not escape my notice that three years ago the Angels removed all mention of Anaheim from their website, uniforms, and official team items. In their case, even the "A" on the hats was ambiguous -- did it stand for "Anaheim" or "Angels"? This was obviously all a precursor to the team's "move" to becoming the LA Angels... obviously not the same as the very real possibility that Rays ownership is looking for another stadium elsewhere, but the principle is quite the same.
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by brink on
Sep 25, 2007 2:03 AM EDT
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